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		<title>By: Colin W</title>
		<link>http://blog.usefullyemployed.co.uk/2008/01/13/protective-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-79155</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update on my previous...
Brought to my attention, i stated only £800 of my award is preferential, the remainder would come from the creditors ....thats no so.  I&#039;m told that i can claim up to 8 weeks ( i think) from the redundancy office as my ex employer is insolvent.

Many thanks to the person giving that info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update on my previous&#8230;<br />
Brought to my attention, i stated only £800 of my award is preferential, the remainder would come from the creditors &#8230;.thats no so.  I&#8217;m told that i can claim up to 8 weeks ( i think) from the redundancy office as my ex employer is insolvent.</p>
<p>Many thanks to the person giving that info.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin W</title>
		<link>http://blog.usefullyemployed.co.uk/2008/01/13/protective-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-78567</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well here&#039;s my experience for anyone in the same position.
Made redundant, they gave everyone about a weeks notice (i was away on holiday) so by the time i got back...finished.
Since found out my ex management went to tribunal and got a protective award, the &#039;court&#039; awarded 70 days pay, very nice, just sit back and wait they said.
Got my letter today...award made as stated...BUT, only the first £800 is &#039;preferential&#039; as the employer has gone into liqidation.
So, rather than several thousand, i&#039;ll get £800, the remainer joins the list of unsecured creditors and i may or may not get a percentage of that back.

The £800 is subject to DWP claiming back any benefits i have claimed.  Under normal circumstances, that&#039;d be it all in the bin then, but i&#039;ve already paid back what i claimed when i got my redundancy or payment in lieu (can&#039;t remember which right now)
Another line states, the protective award may be subject to the deduction of National Insurance contributions.

Its never what it seems is it ?

I was suspicious at first, it all seemed too good to be true.  Still, i get what i get and wasnt expecting anything a few months ago, so silver linings and all that !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well here&#8217;s my experience for anyone in the same position.<br />
Made redundant, they gave everyone about a weeks notice (i was away on holiday) so by the time i got back&#8230;finished.<br />
Since found out my ex management went to tribunal and got a protective award, the &#8216;court&#8217; awarded 70 days pay, very nice, just sit back and wait they said.<br />
Got my letter today&#8230;award made as stated&#8230;BUT, only the first £800 is &#8216;preferential&#8217; as the employer has gone into liqidation.<br />
So, rather than several thousand, i&#8217;ll get £800, the remainer joins the list of unsecured creditors and i may or may not get a percentage of that back.</p>
<p>The £800 is subject to DWP claiming back any benefits i have claimed.  Under normal circumstances, that&#8217;d be it all in the bin then, but i&#8217;ve already paid back what i claimed when i got my redundancy or payment in lieu (can&#8217;t remember which right now)<br />
Another line states, the protective award may be subject to the deduction of National Insurance contributions.</p>
<p>Its never what it seems is it ?</p>
<p>I was suspicious at first, it all seemed too good to be true.  Still, i get what i get and wasnt expecting anything a few months ago, so silver linings and all that !!!</p>
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		<title>By: honestpointofview</title>
		<link>http://blog.usefullyemployed.co.uk/2008/01/13/protective-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-69860</link>
		<dc:creator>honestpointofview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kathleen

Claims have to be lodged;

 within three months of the the period of three months beginning with the date on which the last of the dismissals to which the complaint relates takes effect. S189 (5) of the Trade Union and Labour Relation Consultation Act 1992.

or

where the tribunal is satisfied that it was not reasonably practicable for the complaint to be presented [during the] period of three months, within such further period as it considers reasonable. (s189 (5)(c)

So a tribunal may still hear a claim but you would have to argue why it was not reasonably practicable for you to have lodged your claim within the three months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kathleen</p>
<p>Claims have to be lodged;</p>
<p> within three months of the the period of three months beginning with the date on which the last of the dismissals to which the complaint relates takes effect. S189 (5) of the Trade Union and Labour Relation Consultation Act 1992.</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>where the tribunal is satisfied that it was not reasonably practicable for the complaint to be presented [during the] period of three months, within such further period as it considers reasonable. (s189 (5)(c)</p>
<p>So a tribunal may still hear a claim but you would have to argue why it was not reasonably practicable for you to have lodged your claim within the three months.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Walker</title>
		<link>http://blog.usefullyemployed.co.uk/2008/01/13/protective-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-69844</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone tell me if there is a time limit on a Protective Award . 
I was made redundant  last year and have just found out that some of 
my colleagues have now been awarded a payment and there are a lot more 
of us that have had nothing because we did not know that we could apply for 
it ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone tell me if there is a time limit on a Protective Award .<br />
I was made redundant  last year and have just found out that some of<br />
my colleagues have now been awarded a payment and there are a lot more<br />
of us that have had nothing because we did not know that we could apply for<br />
it ?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Ware</title>
		<link>http://blog.usefullyemployed.co.uk/2008/01/13/protective-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-57288</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Ware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to know, should a Protective Award be made by a tribunal, who is reponsible for making the payments of the awards made to the former employees. Particularly as in most cases the employers are in Administration.
Could you set out what deductions are able to be made from any awards made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know, should a Protective Award be made by a tribunal, who is reponsible for making the payments of the awards made to the former employees. Particularly as in most cases the employers are in Administration.<br />
Could you set out what deductions are able to be made from any awards made.</p>
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		<title>By: william irvine</title>
		<link>http://blog.usefullyemployed.co.uk/2008/01/13/protective-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-53704</link>
		<dc:creator>william irvine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pauline, I implore you to go back to your ET office and chase them up. You SHOULDN&#039;T have wages removed from a protective award as it is punitive award against an employer not strictly an entitlement. 

Lest that is how my ET in Northern Ireland saw it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pauline, I implore you to go back to your ET office and chase them up. You SHOULDN&#8217;T have wages removed from a protective award as it is punitive award against an employer not strictly an entitlement. </p>
<p>Lest that is how my ET in Northern Ireland saw it</p>
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		<title>By: pauline aitken</title>
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		<dc:creator>pauline aitken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just been through the same thing as yourself and won our 90 day protective awards pay by the judge, now the insolvency company say they have no money to pay us. We are getting our money through the Redundant Payments Office who say they only pay for 8 weeks and will stop off us our wages what they have already paid us so i cannot see the point of the judge giving us 90 days when we will end up with next to nothing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just been through the same thing as yourself and won our 90 day protective awards pay by the judge, now the insolvency company say they have no money to pay us. We are getting our money through the Redundant Payments Office who say they only pay for 8 weeks and will stop off us our wages what they have already paid us so i cannot see the point of the judge giving us 90 days when we will end up with next to nothing</p>
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		<title>By: Al Blason</title>
		<link>http://blog.usefullyemployed.co.uk/2008/01/13/protective-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-34389</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Blason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The company that I worked for went into administration the same day as we were all made reduntant- approx 160 no. 
The Employment Tribunal awarded myself and 2 other colleagues a Protective Award, but now the administrators have stated that it is not their problem and have forwarded the letter to the Redindancy Office.
Should they not have known about this  as they are the &quot;so called proffessionals&quot;
Do you know whether the payment due is a capped figure or 90 days pay at the salary when made redundant. They also state that I am an unsecured creditor but surely as an employee I am secured</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The company that I worked for went into administration the same day as we were all made reduntant- approx 160 no.<br />
The Employment Tribunal awarded myself and 2 other colleagues a Protective Award, but now the administrators have stated that it is not their problem and have forwarded the letter to the Redindancy Office.<br />
Should they not have known about this  as they are the &#8220;so called proffessionals&#8221;<br />
Do you know whether the payment due is a capped figure or 90 days pay at the salary when made redundant. They also state that I am an unsecured creditor but surely as an employee I am secured</p>
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