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Employee suspended for disclosing anti-gay views in a conversation

The reason that the regulations concerning sexual orientation and religion and belief will cause so many thorny problems is that the latter may well protect opinions and points of views (what else is a religion or philosophical belief?) that are rather strongly against the practice and free expression of the former.

The Times reports that a worker at a Christian hostel in Southampton was asked his views on homosexuality in a conversation with a colleague. His reply, that he was opposed to same-sex marriages and to homosexual clergy but he was not homophobic and had homosexual friends, earned him a suspension for “promoting [his] religious views which contained discriminatory comments regarding a person’s sexual orientation. The action was apparently to “to safeguard both residents and staff”.

I suspect this case will make good news copy but not really any good law. The worker is prima facie entitled to hold his religious beliefs, but that right is subject to employer controls on dignity in the workplace and so on. If a gay employee was subjected to preaching on brimstone and hellfire without invitation or acquiescence, then he would likely have a complaint. If the conversation here was simply such that the worker was asked “What are your religious views on homosexuality?” and replied as reported, then it may well be that the complaint against him is weak, and does not justify something that may be indirect religious discrimination.

Cases such as these will be deeply fact sensitive. The best guidance for employers is that they need to foster an approach to their employees which values the right to hold a sexual orientation, and the right not to have to hide it under a bushel, but similarly respects the right to hold a religious view, while recognising that expression of some of its aspects may be justifiably restricted.

For the strength of religion in shaping behaviour, see this stunning  collection of photographs of Easter Week celebrations and observances around the world, from the usual crowds in Vatican City to bloody self-flagellation in the Philippines.

 

Boston.com - The Big Picture - Penitents take part in a procession of the Fusionadas brotherhood during Holy Week in the Andalusian city of Malaga, southern Spain April 8, 2009. (REUTERS/Jon Nazca) #

Boston.com - The Big Picture - Penitents take part in a procession of the "Fusionadas" brotherhood during Holy Week in the Andalusian city of Malaga, southern Spain April 8, 2009. (REUTERS/Jon Nazca) #

Boston.com – The Big Picture

 

And similarly, check out the oldest known depiction of a gay couple:

 

Khnumhotep and Niankhkhnum © 1999 Greg Reeder

Khnumhotep and Niankhkhnum © 1999 Greg Reeder

Khnumhotep and Niankhkhnum are shown here in the middle of a nose-rub, the most intimate gesture in Ancient Egyptian art. They were a couple, with a family, and lived in Egypt around 2400 BC.

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6 comments to Employee suspended for disclosing anti-gay views in a conversation

  • I do not think that this is just a clash between Articles 8 and 9 of the ECHR because Article 10 should be added to the mix as well. It surely must be permissible to say “I do not agree with the laws against discrimination” and it cannot be discriminatory to do so.

  • The story seems to have moved – it is now at

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article6093378.ece

    You may also want to edit your second paragraph, as the original story quotes the employee as saying that he was *not* homophobic.

  • Usefully Employed

    Thanks Simon – don’t know why they moved the story but it seems to read a little bit differently…

    The missing *not* was a typo, but a grievous one!

  • Usefully Employed

    James – I agree, and I believe a tribunal would have to consider both Article 9 and Article 10 engaged in this case. Rightly or wrongly I’ve always regarded Human Rights arguments as having a certain weakness so far as they are used in determining legitimate treatment or reasonableness.

    From Begum v Denbigh High School [2006] UKHL 15 (apologies, as they say, for length)

    The Strasbourg institutions have not been at all ready to find an interference with the right to manifest religious belief in practice or observance where a person has voluntarily accepted an employment or role which does not accommodate that practice or observance and there are other means open to the person to practise or observe his or her religion without undue hardship or inconvenience. Thus in X v Denmark (1976) 5 DR 157 a clergyman was held to have accepted the discipline of his church when he took employment, and his right to leave the church guaranteed his freedom of religion. His claim under article 9 failed. In Kjeldsen, Busk Madsen and Pedersen v Denmark (1976) 1 EHRR 711, paras 54 and 57, parents’ philosophical and religious objections to sex education in state schools was rejected on the ground that they could send their children to state schools or educate them at home. The applicant’s article 9 claim in Ahmad, above, paras 13, 14 and 15, failed because he had accepted a contract which did not provide for him to absent himself from his teaching duties to attend prayers, he had not brought his religious requirements to the employer’s notice when seeking employment and he was at all times free to seek other employment which would accommodate his religious observance. … In rejecting the applicant’s claim in Konttinen v Finland (1996) 87-A DR 68 the Commission pointed out, in para 1, page 75, that he had not been pressured to change his religious views or prevented from manifesting his religion or belief; having found that his working hours conflicted with his religious convictions, he was free to relinquish his post. … In Stedman v United Kingdom (1997) 23 EHRR CD 168 it was fatal to the applicant’s article 9 claim that she was free to resign rather than work on Sundays. The applicant in Kalaç, above, paras 28-29, failed because he had, in choosing a military career, accepted of his own accord a system of military discipline that by its nature implied the possibility of special limitations on certain rights and freedoms, and he had been able to fulfil the ordinary obligations of Muslim belief…

    The ‘margin of appreciation’ given to employers to rigidly set their behavioural code would seem to be wide. But simple expression of a view, outside of a work context, may fall outside it. There are some surprisingly generous decisions to restricting freedom of speech in civil servants however, eg you can’t be in the Communist Party and so on. If anyone knows of an authority on the precise point then please let us all know.

  • magicthighs

    I think you’ll find the lowest picture is a representation of me and one of your male relatives a fortnight ago in the van club.

  • Usefully Employed

    Correct, and for once I’ll leave your comment undisturbed.

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